【2018-19老鹰赛季】在亚特兰大迈向林来疯第7年


(Jlinhkfan) #391

明白。不好意思,我表達得不清楚。其實節目的後半有提及髕骨肌腱撕裂的例子及手術的處理方法。


#392

#393

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(Jlinhkfan) #394

全文如下:
Any time teams go into a season with many new faces, there are going to be question marks, Hawks general manager Travis Schlenk says. Atlanta brought in a new coaching staff, training staff, several veterans and, of course, some rookies who are now a part of the starting five.

The Hawks have reached the 41-game mark with a record of 12-29, the fifth-worst record in the NBA, in coach Lloyd Pierce’s first season. This season isn’t about adding up wins, as the team rebuilds. Schlenk, Pierce and the rest of the key players inside the Hawks’ organization are more so looking for growth out of the young players, which Schlenk says he has seen in the past month.

With the Hawks officially at the halfway point, The Athletic caught up with Schlenk to get his thoughts on the team up until this point and, of course, in the future.

Here’s the full conversation.

With the amount of young talent you have on the roster, how important was it to you to hire a coach like Lloyd, who has a background in player development?

When we went through the process this past summer to find a coach, we obviously wanted to find someone with a strong player development background. That was at the top of the list in qualities that we were looking for. One of the other things that was most important to us was finding a guy who was going to be able to connect and create a positive environment with the team knowing that we probably weren’t going to get as many wins as we want to. You’ve had the opportunity to be around our team, you know that we have a positive environment in our locker room, even if we’re not winning every night like we want to. So, those two qualities: being able to keep a positive environment along with being able to develop our players were two of the highest priorities for us this summer. Lloyd hit both of those marks out of the park. I’m really happy with Lloyd. He’s just a good guy.

You mention that the wins aren’t coming. How difficult is it to manage a locker room with players who obviously want to win every night?

We focus on smaller goals. We want to get better every single day. As we improve each day, the wins are going to be there and take care of themselves. We’re taking a bigger picture approach. That’s also with the characters we have and making sure we have quality veteran guys in your locker room who understand where we are in this process and embrace it. That’s a large part of why a lot of the guys we signed in the summer and brought in here through trades are here. We wanted them to create that environment in the locker room.

What constitutes success for you this year, and are there certain benchmarks you’re looking to reach? You mentioned that you are trying to focus on smaller goals. What are those smaller goals?

The main thing is that we continue to see growth, individually and collectively. We continue to watch guys get better. It’s not like we’re saying, ‘This is the number we need to reach to consider it a successful season.’ It’s not like that. It’s about continuing to see growth and continuing to see guys playing better.

One of those players who has shown growth is John (Collins). When you were projecting him out of Wake Forest, did you expect this player to emerge in his second year? In his past 12 or so games, he’s averaging 20 points, 12 rebounds and shooting 40 percent from 3-point range.

Listen, we had John ranked higher on our board than where he was drafted. We were happy to see he was still there. One of the things that we really liked about John was the growth he showed in his game from his freshman year at Wake to his sophomore year. He had a great summer. He stuck around here and got a lot of work in through a lot of change. We redid the training staff. We redid the coaching staff. It wasn’t a perfect offseason for a young player. Seeing the growth he had during his freshman to sophomore year at Wake, we expected to see some growth here, and we’re really excited what he’s going to be able to do with one continuous staff. We’re excited about him and his upside as he gets more experience and becomes an older player.

I’ve talked to John about this several times, but a big part of why he feels like he has grown is having a point guard like Trae (Young) to give him the ball effectively. How much do you credit Trae’s ability to effectively distribute the ball as a reason why John has excelled this year?

This is one of the things that I’ve said since day one about why we really like Trae. It’s his ability to see the floor and make the correct reads. On top of that, being able to execute the play. As guys play in this league, they want to play with guys who are willing to pass them the ball. Trae is willing to do that. As Trae’s and John’s chemistry continues to develop and as they grow on the court, I think if you’re a guy who gets buckets, you’re looking for a point guard who is looking to pass you the ball. It’s not even just John. All of our big guys are playing well. Alex Len is having a career year. Same sort of thing with him. Trae gives him four to five layups a game. The hope is that guys see that he’s willing to pass it, and if guys want to get easy buckets, then that’s part of the hope (of the future).

Well, maybe not this summer, but two to three summers down the road, Trae’s ability to be a playmaker will potentially grow and become marketable for big-name free agents. When you are making your future projections, how much is that something you’re considering?

I think, certainly, guys want to score, but we have to promise that we’re going to be a winning team. The majority of the time when free agents decide where they want to go, they are looking for a place that they want to be successful. We hope with not just Trae but all of our young guys that free agents will look at them and say, ‘You know what? If I go there, we have a chance to be a good team.’ That’s more of the plan than pinning it just on one player.

Going back to John, do you see him more as a 4 or 5 moving forward?

I think in today’s NBA is what I think makes John special. He has the ability to play both spots. He’s got the quickness to go out on the floor and switch in pick-and-rolls and cover guys on the perimeter, but he also has the athleticism, and as he continues to work on his game, he’ll be able to defend guys in the post. He has shown the ability to pick-and-pop and space the floor. Obviously as a roller, he’s been extremely effective in the pick-and-roll.

It looks like you know what you have in John, and you have a good idea of what you have in Trae and Kevin (Huerter). With that being said, going into this draft, what do you feel are the areas you need to address?

We’re at a point in our development where we’re going to take the best player. We’re not in a position where we can say, ‘OK, we need this kind of player, and we’ll be all set.’ We’re going to take the biggest talent we can get. You can never have too much talent in this league. We’re going to draft — and not just this draft but moving forward — our philosophy is always going to be, especially if we’re going to be picking at the top of the draft, you take the player you think is the best.

I was going to ask you, when you’re scouting, you’re prioritizing talent over systematic fit then?

Yeah, we’re going with talent over fit, for sure. As you start picking in the second round, there might be a guy who fits perfectly. I think some of the biggest mistakes in the draft, at least the ones I’ve been a part of, is drafting for need, especially at the top of the draft, over talent.

You obviously know that the draft is a major piece to how GMs are judged ultimately. It’s obviously early, but are you looking for anything to feel validated that making the trade with Dallas was the right one?

I’m not looking for anything. We made a decision that if we could turn one lottery pick into two lottery picks, then that was going to be a good decision for us.

I mean, I’m sure you’ve heard the criticism from at least a segment of the fanbase over the decision. When people do criticize your decision and see what Luka (Doncic) is doing, what do you say to them?

It comes with the territory, right? We work in a profession where decisions are judged, and that’s what makes working in sports great. People care passionately about your decision. What I have said is we make these decisions, and our thought process is if we can turn one lottery pick into two, then that’s good. The draft is an inexact science. What makes the draft so hard is you’re trying to project, in this case, two 19-year-old kids three, four years down the line. I think it’s short-minded to judge the success of a rookie one half into a season. We want these players to be great three, four years down the road. You have to understand that there’s going to be a learning curve and a growth curve with all of these rookies. How they work every day and what they do in the summer for the next four years is what’s going to determine who they are. You can find tons of examples of this. Michael Carter-Williams was the rookie of the year several years ago for Philadelphia, and he’s out of the league now. I always go back to the Steph Curry draft because that was my first draft. Tyreke Evans was the rookie of the year and averaged 25 [points] and five [assists] that year. James Harden was in that draft. Steph Curry was in that draft. Blake Griffin was in that draft. To say 41 games into these guys’ careers that we know who they are is very shortsighted. We’ll know three, four years down the road.

Lloyd has said multiple times this season that a big reason why Trae was taken was because of his long-range shooting. We didn’t see much success during the first few months. In these past 15 games, we’ve seen him around 45 percent from 3. So, I’m curious, what kind of player do you actually think he is right now, and what kind of player are you actually projecting him to be?

I understand the Curry projections, but I’ve said many, many times that the shooting is great, and I think he’s going to be fine long-term. He really just had a really, really bad month of November, but other than that, it hasn’t been bad. As you mentioned, I think in the past month it’s around 44 to 45 percent or whatever it is. But it’s really his playmaking ability that I’m looking at. If I had to say, ‘He’s more like this guy.’ I would say he’s more of a Steve Nash with the way he runs pick-and-rolls, and obviously, Steve was a really good shooter. His main objective was to be a playmaker first, though. That’s what I would say. The difference with Trae is he grew up as a scorer. One of the things that Lloyd has been working on with him is getting other people involved first. You can always get your own at some point.

We’re obviously under a month away from the trade deadline. I’m sure you’re not going to get into specifics, but if the time comes where an offer is presented your way, are you mainly looking for assets for this upcoming draft or ones in the future?

We’re looking for future assets. We already have five picks in this draft and more than likely, two firsts and three seconds. Any of the deals we do will be future assets or a deal that maybe will increase our (cap) flexibility moving forward. We’re still on the same trajectory. We’re certainly listening to a lot of stuff, but we’re not going to do a bad deal or do a deal that will hamper our objectives.

You have several players who are on expiring deals. You mentioned that you’re listening. Are you able to discuss what the interest has been on your roster?

I can’t get into that. I’m sorry.

I spoke with (Warriors GM( Bob Myers about this a few weeks ago, but he mentioned to me that he thought you were going to be a successful GM one day because of your work ethic. Can you take me through what a normal day looks like for you?

Let’s see. I’m going to the Wake Forest-Duke game (Tuesday). I have another college game (Wednesday). Friday I’m going to Philadelphia. I’ll be home Thursday night this week. (Tuesday), I’ve been in the office making phone calls with other teams to see what’s going on out there. I’ve talked with several agents over the phone, too. A lot of my work is spent on airplanes, watching basketball games and things like that. It’s not like I’m working in a mine somewhere.

Given where Cleveland is with its development process, is there some concern that the first-round pick you have from the Cavaliers isn’t going to convey, and you’ll end up getting two second-rounders in 2021?

I wouldn’t say concerned. The one thing is, and I honestly believe this, you can find talent anywhere in the draft. It’s all about having the picks to do it. Second-round picks can be extremely valuable, and they’re also an asset because maybe that pick turns into something that you can use in a trade to get a player you really want. Who knows what’s going to happen this next year if Kevin Love is healthy. It could turn into a (first-round) pick. It doesn’t look like we’re going to get it this year, and that’s fine. That’s why we have two shots at it. We’ll wait to see what happens this summer, and if not and it’s two seconds, then they will have value.

Has the new lottery odds structure and the potential for the one-and-done rule to go away in the near future influenced how you think about team building in the future?

I wouldn’t say that it changes anything. Obviously, the odds are little more squished together than they were in the past. Theoretically, there’s less motivation now for teams to finish with the worst record. But, again, we finished tied for fifth last year (in terms of worst record), and we got lucky and jumped up to three. At the end of the day, it’s still a lottery, and I’ve maintained since day one that we want to have a little success for our guys. We want our guys to taste success and learn how to win. I’ve always said, we want to be competitive, but we understand that it’s not going to be perfect. You want to win games, and people ask me all of the time, ‘Are you upset that you’re winning too many games?’ I’m never upset when we win. We’ll be on the short end plenty of times, so let’s win as many as we can.

This last draft you clearly prioritized players who could shoot. Lloyd is a defensive-minded coach. When you look at this roster, do you believe you have the personnel to be one of the better defensive teams down the road? If not, how are you addressing that?

Well, I think as the team gets older — we’re starting two rookies. I think defense is learned. It’s not a focus in youth development anymore, certainly. Anyone can play defense. It’s just a learning how to do it sort of thing. Obviously, some guys are going to have a better physical advantage than some others, but I think it’s more about giving Lloyd time to implement his system and having the young guys learn the system. You have to live with some of their mistakes, and the problem with defense is when you’re making mistakes in this league, it’s usually a dunk or a wide-open shot. Long story short is we’ll get there.

I wasn’t covering the team then, but from reading some of the scouting reports from some draft analysts, Kevin was labeled primarily as just a shooter. But it looks like he has the abilities to be a good defensive player, too. What are your thoughts on what he has shown on that end of the floor?

We never looked at him as someone who is just a shooter. One of the first things I said about him at the draft was he obviously is a very good shooter, but what we liked about him was we saw the ball-handling ability, his ability to play off the ball and defensively, the strides he has made throughout the year. If you go back to preseason, he was so nervous and so scared. He didn’t feel like he belonged. Now, he’s learning how to do it and taking more pride in it. That’s the process. He’s got a very high basketball IQ. He’s learning on the fly, and he certainly has a long way to go. He needs to get in the weight room and get stronger, but he understands the game, and that’s one of the reasons why we liked him so much in the draft.

Taurean (Prince) has been out for a few weeks now, but when he was healthy, he was near the bottom of the league in assist-to-turnover ratio. We’ve seen ball movement is a priority for you on offense. How do you see him fitting into the team when he does get back, not only this season but moving forward?

I think Taurean came into the year with a great summer of working out. We had to deal with a lot of young players coming in and having to learn a new system. He was trying to learn on the fly. One of the things that he’s been able to do (since his injury) is have a better idea of what Lloyd is looking for. The past few days, Lloyd has been working with him personally. Taurean is getting closer. Hopefully, in the next seven to 10 days, he’ll be back. We’re just excited to get him back out there. Again, just because it was two months, that’s a really short time to have strong opinions about someone.

Did you feel, when he was healthy, and from looking at the stats, it looks like his defense regressed a bit. What did you see out of him on that end?

It wasn’t just Taurean. We weren’t a very good defensive team for those first two months. Everyone’s numbers were down. You can’t just look at the box scores for this. One of the things about Taurean, when we drafted him, was because of his defense. He has it in him to be a good defensive player. Maybe we have to redirect the focus there a little bit, but again, I don’t have any concerns about him. Taurean is one of the best catch-and-shoot players in this league. He’s a valuable commodity and has the ability to be a very good defensive player. As he gets accustomed to a new defensive system and understand what Lloyd is trying to accomplish in a team setting — I’m not worried about Taurean at all.

When you made the trade with Brooklyn for Jeremy (Lin), he was coming back from two serious injuries. He started the season slowly. When you took him, were you expecting him to be putting up shooting numbers that are up there some of the best in his career?

We had Jeremy in Golden State. We signed him to his first contract when I was out there. I knew the kind of person Jeremy was. I had many conversations with Brooklyn about where he was at physically. We felt pretty confident that he was going to be able to get back physically. We knew he was going to take some time because he hadn’t played for a few years, but we felt confident that he was going to be able to play. Again, knowing that it had been two years, we knew it was going to be rusty and wasn’t going to be great in the beginning. But the biggest reason why we did the trade was because we wanted to make sure that we had a quality veteran in the locker room who was going to be able to help Trae. Jeremy, with the whole Linsanity thing and dealing with the pressure from the media, fit that bill to a tee. He’s not the same player he was, but as we’ve seen over the last month, he’s still a very effective player. He used to be a little more athletic than what he is now, but you can tell that he’s put in a lot of time working on his shot because he’s turned into a really good outside shooter. His body has gotten a lot stronger over the years. I’m extremely happy with Jeremy.

(Photo of Travis Schlenk: Brett Davis-USA TODAY Sports)


(Jlinhkfan) #395

看了最後一段有關林的,幾乎可以肯定老鷹今年不打算交易林,因為他們就是為了更衣室氣氛和對羊的指導而把林交易過來,單是這兩點,在聯盟幾乎找不到另一個老將會不吵不鬧,乖乖地當一位新秀的替補。
總結他們是看中林的乖寶寶性格而不是球技。
有人說不明白老鷹為什麼為了得到林而放棄兩個首輪,不直接和金塊做交易。只要你把重點放在培養楊的身上就會明白。老鷹做的一切都是建基在培養吹楊上,他們其實是為培養楊而放棄兩個首輪,而不是為了得到林。


(扛夫) #396

所有球隊經理往往說一套做一套,最近的例子就是馬克斯,前一天說林會留隊,第二天就閃電交易了。
施倫克的話聽聽就好,沒準他是在抬價──不是不可交易,Show me the money!


#397

不好意思再直接 @J大 您,分享 The Athletic 上內容提及 林 的文章

結果,還是由您造福林網眾人,讓大家得以多少知悉老鷹高層想法,感謝您的再次幫忙! :kissing_heart: :rose:


(Jlinhkfan) #398

別客氣,舉手之勞。感謝你們為林網所做的一切。


(Ryan1785) #399

感謝分享,文章很長,但似乎就是…到處都可以看得的總經理官方回答!

從我了解的 NBA 至今,他就是一個商業團體,為了吸引到票房,購票入場,購買周邊商品,收視率等。其實,簡單的說,只要有球星,商業行為推動,就是可以辦得到。觀眾都是追星的。只要可以將一切的推動,轉化球隊有了鉅額收入,相關人等就會得到應得的報酬來養家活口。一切都用商業行為來解釋,就行得通。

那,新球員進入球團的栽培…恩,老實說,我不怎麼認同。反之,如果經紀公司為了要栽培球員,設定各項訓練目標來要求所屬球員達標,進而讓球員成長而獲得相對應的收入,才是王道。

球員辛苦的訓練,擠上10人輪值甚至15人名單,那才是球團要驗收的。
關於小林,其實還是球團,甚至聯盟運作的一個棋子籌碼。他只能讓自己變得更強,當然除了人和外,其他方面都不是他能控制的。除非,他自己開了經紀公司,有很多出色的球員。

總之,小林到哪,我就到哪裡看球!


(Angelfish_YU95) #400

我覺得是"待價而沽"。。。
有好的滿意的籌碼就交易。。。
沒有滿意的籌碼就留著。。。
畢竟以LIN的品格在NBA裡難尋。。。


#401

信息量很大,需要时间消化,但我觉得他有着推销林…


(Boris587) #402

#403

We’re obviously under a month away from the trade deadline. I’m sure you’re not going to get into specifics, but if the time comes where an offer is presented your way, are you mainly looking for assets for this upcoming draft or ones in the future?
我们显然距离交易截止日期还有一个月的时间。我相信你不会详细说明,但如果到时候而对方提出的报价合你意,你寻找着的资产主要是着眼于接着的这个选秀(2019),或者是将来的选秀?

We’re looking for future assets. We already have five picks in this draft and more than likely, two firsts and three seconds. Any of the deals we do will be future assets or a deal that maybe will increase our (cap) flexibility moving forward. We’re still on the same trajectory. We’re certainly listening to a lot of stuff, but we’re not going to do a bad deal or do a deal that will hamper our objectives.
我们正在寻找未来的资产。我们在这次(2019)选秀中已经有五个选秀权,而且很可能是两个首轮和三个次轮。我们所做的任何交易都将是为了未来资产,或可能会增加我们(空间上限)灵活性的交易。我们仍处于同样的轨道上。我们肯定在听着很多提案,但我们不会做不好的交易或达成妨碍我们目标的交易。

You have several players who are on expiring deals. You mentioned that you’re listening. Are you able to discuss what the interest has been on your roster?
你有几个球员都正值到期合同,你提到你在听着(交易提案),你能不能讨论球员名单上有哪些是买家有兴趣的?

I can’t get into that. I’m sorry.
我不能谈这个。对不起。


Has the new lottery odds structure and the potential for the one-and-done rule to go away in the near future influenced how you think about team building in the future?
新的乐透秀几率结构,以及不久的将来对‘只打一年大学球队的球员’(one and done)规则改变,
是否影响你对将来球队重建的想法?

I wouldn’t say that it changes anything. Obviously, the odds are little more squished together than they were in the past. Theoretically, there’s less motivation now for teams to finish with the worst record. But, again, we finished tied for fifth last year (in terms of worst record), and we got lucky and jumped up to three. At the end of the day, it’s still a lottery, and I’ve maintained since day one that we want to have a little success for our guys. We want our guys to taste success and learn how to win. I’ve always said, we want to be competitive, but we understand that it’s not going to be perfect. You want to win games, and people ask me all of the time, ‘Are you upset that you’re winning too many games?’ I’m never upset when we win. We’ll be on the short end plenty of times, so let’s win as many as we can.
我不会说它改变了什么。显然,与过去相比,几率更加捆绑在一起。从理论上讲,现在球队以最差战绩结束的动力较小了。但是,再次说,我们去年并列第五(倒数记录而言),我们很幸运并且跳升到三。至始至终,这仍然是乐透选秀,我从第一天起就一直保持着我们想要让我们的球员们取得一点成功。我们希望我们的球员们品尝成功滋味并学会如何取胜。我总是说,我们想要有竞争力,但我们知道它不会是完美的。你想要赢得比赛,人们总是问我,'你是否因为赢得了太多比赛而感到不安?'我们赢球时从不会感到不安。我们将在很多时候都是微差落败,所以让我们尽可能多地获胜吧。


When you made the trade with Brooklyn for Jeremy (Lin), he was coming back from two serious injuries. He started the season slowly. When you took him, were you expecting him to be putting up shooting numbers that are up there some of the best in his career?
当你与布鲁克林交易林书豪时,他刚从两次严重的伤病中恢复过来。他这个赛季缓慢开局。当你把他带来时,你是否预期过他会打出职业生涯最好的一些投篮数据?

We had Jeremy in Golden State. We signed him to his first contract when I was out there. I knew the kind of person Jeremy was. I had many conversations with Brooklyn about where he was at physically. We felt pretty confident that he was going to be able to get back physically. We knew he was going to take some time because he hadn’t played for a few years, but we felt confident that he was going to be able to play. Again, knowing that it had been two years, we knew it was going to be rusty and wasn’t going to be great in the beginning. But the biggest reason why we did the trade was because we wanted to make sure that we had a quality veteran in the locker room who was going to be able to help Trae. Jeremy, with the whole Linsanity thing and dealing with the pressure from the media, fit that bill to a tee. He’s not the same player he was, but as we’ve seen over the last month, he’s still a very effective player. He used to be a little more athletic than what he is now, but you can tell that he’s put in a lot of time working on his shot because he’s turned into a really good outside shooter. His body has gotten a lot stronger over the years. I’m extremely happy with Jeremy.
我们在金州时就有了林书豪。当我在那里时,签了他[NBA]的第一份合同。我知道书豪是个怎样的人。我和布鲁克林有很过多关于他身体状况的讨论。我们非常有信心他的身体状态会恢复。我们知道这会花一些时间,因为他有几年没参加比赛,但我们有信心他还能比赛。再次强调,知道已经两年(重复伤停)了,我们知道他会有些生锈感,并且在开始时不会打得很好。但我们进行交易的最大原因是因为我们想确保我们在更衣室里有一位能够帮助特雷的优秀老将,林书豪,以他整个林疯狂的经过,处理来自媒体的压力,他恰恰适合这个条件。他不再是当初那位球员,但正如我们在上个月看到的那样,他仍然是一名非常有效率的球员。他过去的运动能力比现在稍好,但你可以看出他为自己的投射训练投入了非常多的时间,因为他已经变成了一个非常出色的外线投手。这些年来,他的身体变得更加强壮。我对书豪非常满意。


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#404

有些事情耽搁了,只节录了跟林书豪比较有关系的几段。

他推销着呢,你应该看到的是,记者问了几个到期合同,偏偏挑了林书豪要席兰科多说一些。

你林是sought-after(抢手,另一报导用词)的球员。


(扛夫) #405

我也認為他在推銷,說不定桌上就擺了幾份有意交易的合同。


(Jlinhkfan) #406

可能吧!:wink: 大家看法不同。:rose:
“But the biggest reason why we did the trade was because we wanted to make sure that we had a quality veteran in the locker room who was going to be able to help Trae”
"He’s not the same player he was, but as we’ve seen over the last month, he’s still a very effective player. He used to be a little more athletic than what he is now, "
不太喜歡他這麽說,是我個人感覺而已,別介意。


#407

这也是事实啊,很好的更衣室老将,辅导杨。但说真的,资产更诱人,是用多半个赛季之后未必(多数不能)留得住呢,还是价码适合就出手?他要未来的选秀权,已经出价了。


(Angelfish_YU95) #408

而且最好不要今年的,因為我們有五個啦 :face_with_hand_over_mouth:


(不要再用身體造犯規了 Please ~) #409

我也不喜歡他這麼說 !
我不喜歡我哥只被當成更衣室,新秀,球隊。。。的優秀老將

他是可以作當打之年的明星球員!!
(之前看過林網翻譯的一段話,大意:雖是30歲,可是有兩年沒用,所以可說是才28歲,更何況今天的林書豪是從大傷過後更精進的回來了!)


(Ryan1785) #410


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